Bonus Episode: "Hey I Think This Might Be a Thing" #376
I lead with the main point: Arc Raiders will receive a major update on October 8 and a PvE‑only test will run October 13–20. I explain why a dedicated PvE mode could bring many players back and stabilize the game. I say Embark should separate PvE and PvP and add more rewarding projects so players have clear reasons to play. We describe the new map Frozen Trail, new weapons, and quality‑of‑life changes coming in the update. I ask Destiny players if they would return to Arc Raiders if a permanent PvE mode exists and invite feedback via our Discord, email, or voicemail. We also note that we go live twice per month and that I am considering adding a shorter mid‑month pre‑recorded check‑in as a regular fixture. I close by saying we are excited for the update and hope Embark listens to the community.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:36 - Main Discussion Begins — Guardian Down Roundtable
06:22 - Arc Raiders Update — A 12-Year Destiny Veteran's Take
07:24 - PvE-only Toggle Test Sparks Community Debate (Oct 13–20)
16:32 - Projects and Rewards: Keeping Raiders Engaged
22:51 - Listener voicemail — Is the PS5 Pro worth it?
28:57 - Listener Voicemails — "Destiny" Joke (Second Voicemail)
36:18 - Overtime — Grackle Introduces the Roundtable
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Speaker BHey, what's up Guardians?
Speaker BAnd welcome to a bonus episode of Guardian Down Roundtable.
Speaker BThis is episode 376.
Speaker BWe go live twice per month on my Todd the gator Twitch and YouTube channel, so I hope you can join us live.
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Speaker BHey, today I wanted to talk about one topic in particular and that is the new major update coming this week in the Arc Raiders game.
Speaker BNow, before you pass on this episode, hear me out.
Speaker BI'll have a question for all you Destiny players at the end that I hope you'll, you know, help me out with.
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Speaker BI have three voicemail questions for the show as well at the very end of the show, so.
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Speaker BBefore we get into this week's topic, I wanted to give a movie review this week since we weren't doing a live show and my wife and I, using our AMC stubs, A List membership where we can see up to four movies every week, any format or screen and no online reservation fees.
Speaker BNo, I don't get paid to say that.
Speaker BI just am a fan.
Speaker BBut we saw in a movie at the theaters called Prime Time.
Speaker BIt stars Robert Pattinson who plays the popular host of To Catch a Predator television show.
Speaker BHis name was Chris Hansen.
Speaker BThe movie starts out by jumping right into the action whereby young actors chat with child molesters.
Speaker BPretty much they chat with them online and act as bait to lure these predators into a house whereby cameras are placed everywhere.
Speaker BAnd then when the predator commits and enters the house, that's when it's Chris Hansen's turn to come out and confront them, reciting their online comments to shame them to confess.
Speaker BUsually local law enforcement is waiting for him outside as they flee the house as well.
Speaker BThat's kind of the gist of the television show for those of you who have never seen it here in America.
Speaker BRotten Tomatoes gave this one 86% certified fresh from the critics and the audience slightly less at 79.
Speaker BBut overall I, I kind of knew what to expect in this movie.
Speaker BBut what I didn't realize is how messed up the producers and hosts lives were in real life.
Speaker BIt's kind of sad to be honest.
Speaker BI don't want to spoil too much here in case you, you know, it's on your movie list.
Speaker BBut it had an irony towards the end that was.
Speaker BIt was kind of fitting.
Speaker BI enjoyed the film and it delivered what it promised.
Speaker BBut I don't know if I'm going to remember this one for my year end top 10 list.
Speaker BWe'll see.
Speaker BI guess.
Speaker BI give this one three and a half stars.
Speaker BIt was good, but not great.
Speaker BIf you see it, hey, let me know what you thought about it.
Speaker BThe Saturday Night Raid crew was present this Saturday.
Speaker BI did stream it on my Todd the gator Twitch and YouTube channels if you want to catch it.
Speaker BWe got a newer member of our community.
Speaker BHis name was Law.
Speaker BShout out to Law.
Speaker BWe got him through a desert perpetual raid and boy, I gotta say, I was brushing off the rust.
Speaker BIt's weird how rusty you can get if you haven't played a particular raid for A while.
Speaker BWe've been so focused on the Pantheon raid encounters over the past month or so.
Speaker BI think I forgot some of my roles on Desert Perpetual.
Speaker BI, I don't know why, but maybe as I get older it's just harder to remember what I need to do and all the mechanics of these raids.
Speaker BIt also reminds me of how mechanic driven a lot of the newer raids are now versus the older ones.
Speaker BI don't know, I, I, I think there's a little bit more nuance to the newer raids, but maybe that's just me, I don't know.
Speaker BBut you know, I have double digit runs on this raid as a perpetual and I don't know.
Speaker BFor some reason I was struggling.
Speaker BAnyway, it's been a busy work week for me as I was scrambling to finish up my monthly client list.
Speaker BIt's, you know, it's the end of the month.
Speaker BIt's been on and off rain this past week.
Speaker BSome days it threatened rain but didn't and other days it came down in the afternoon right on time.
Speaker BWe did finally get a taste of fall and we got some drier 82 degree days with the humidity was a little bit less, I don't want to say the N word, but a little bit less humidity in the air.
Speaker BBut it was very short lived here in Florida.
Speaker BWe were soon back to near 90 and that good old stagnant humidity was back.
Speaker BOkay, enough about my week.
Speaker BLet's get into this week's topic.
Speaker CHello out there, this is Allie Kate and you're listening to the Guardian Down Roundtable.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BWith the new update to Arc Raiders coming next week, as I record this on October 3rd, I wanted to express my take with the Arc Raiders game.
Speaker BBut coming from the perspective of a 12 year Destiny veteran, you know, I got nearly 10,000 hours of playtime invested in this game, and that's on one account.
Speaker BBut Destiny has been one of the most engaging games I can ever remember playing.
Speaker BI mean, you'd have to go all the way back to my early, early online experiences.
Speaker BLike the original Call of Duty Modern Warfare.
Speaker BThe new Arc Raiders Update arrives on October 8th with an entirely new map, new weapons, new quality of life updates, and new ways to play the game.
Speaker BAnd while I'm excited to see what Embark has been working on for this past six months, there's been quite the controversy whether the game should offer a PvE only mode versus, you know, the usual tension between players in the current extraction game that it is on October 13th through October 20th, which is a one week period.
Speaker BEmbark is testing a PvE only mode where there's zero friendly fire or player damage and the only damage you're going to take is from arc enemies or in the case of where you fail to grapple correctly and fall five stories to your death.
Speaker BI mean, not saying I've ever done that, but I've heard other people have anyway, but players that enjoy that PvE only aspect of Arc Raiders, they're applauding this test and they want a permanent map condition where this is the case.
Speaker BBut I'm quoting from Dutch Butters.
Speaker BHe's a.
Speaker BHe's a content creator podcaster for the Arc Raiders game and he put out a tweet that really got a lot of attention lately and I just wanted to read it out here real quick.
Speaker BHe says, I don't think Embark is ready for what is about to happen when that PvE toggle goes live on October 13th.
Speaker BI already have people in my community who reinstalled Arc Raiders just off the announcement alone, not when it launches off the announcement.
Speaker BThere is a massive audience of players who love the gameplay, love the world, love the co op, but they bounced because they didn't want to deal with PvP extraction pressure every single session.
Speaker BThose people never stopped watching.
Speaker BThey were just waiting for a reason to come back.
Speaker BThis test is that reason.
Speaker BIf the numbers spike the way I think they will, Embark is going to realize that they've been sitting on an untapped player base this whole time.
Speaker BPvE players spend money, PvE players stick around, PvE players build communities, make it permanent at Embark Studios, unquote.
Speaker BWe Destiny players know all about that, right?
Speaker BAs most of us play PvE games in the Destiny franchise over the years.
Speaker BBut after seeing that post, it made me think what has made Destiny such a success for over a decade?
Speaker BAnd by the way, it's coming back to be determined.
Speaker BWe're supposed to hear an announcement sometime in October, I believe, but as an outsider to this community that has played over a hundred hours of the game now here's my take on it.
Speaker BYou know, when I first jumped into Arc Raiders back in March of this year, I was already behind so many other players that played the game when it was released in late 2025.
Speaker BI mean, I really didn't grab on to the game until a friend of mine shout out to Elmer Fudd Games.
Speaker BHe put on a friendly tournament where pairs of players would compete on total money farmed for a specified two hours of the game.
Speaker BAnd these were all public servers, so if you went down and got killed, that's on you at $0.
Speaker BBut shout out to my to my partner, native Raider.
Speaker BI mean, from that moment I was hooked.
Speaker BI then jumped in and played over 100 hours consistently, but I only played solo.
Speaker BI spent those valuable 30 minutes exploring all parts of these rich and enormous maps.
Speaker BYou know, being that ex developers from DICE had made this game, it brought me right back to those rich gun battles.
Speaker BI remember playing for hours in Battlefield three, Battlefield four.
Speaker BYou know, the epic team battles using all kinds of killing power.
Speaker BWhether it was a tank, a plane, a helicopter, boats, or the plentiful supply of weapons with endless upgrades to each individual weapon.
Speaker BThere were so many things to unlock on that one aspect alone.
Speaker BIt kept me playing for hundreds of hours.
Speaker BNow, Battlefield players don't hate me here, but I think the new Battlefield games, they're just not the same.
Speaker BThey think they missed the point here.
Speaker BThe content is much shallower and the progression has definitely been very much neutered.
Speaker BI mean, that's just my opinion.
Speaker BIt's the reason I haven't been playing Battlefield 6 lately.
Speaker BBut going back to the Arc Raiders game, man, there is such a blank canvas to work on in this game.
Speaker BBut I think there's two things that Embark needs to focus on for it to become that 10 year franchise that they were touting it would be back in 2025.
Speaker BNumber one, they need to do what Bungie has done with the Destiny game since day one, and that is to separate PvE and PvP.
Speaker BNow, I know some of you are yelling at the screen right now, but hear me out.
Speaker BThe magic of the Destiny game, the secret sauce, if you will, was that you could jump into the PvE Worlds of Destiny and whatever loot you obtained from that world, you could bring right into the PvP arena that created so much content right there on its own.
Speaker BI would see PvP players, content creators who played only PvP, jumping into raids, dungeons and even strikes just to get that God roll that they know would give them that chance to win that 1v1 gun battle.
Speaker BYou know, on the PvP maps that were out there.
Speaker BI'll admit to one other thing that you probably don't know about me, and that is I have never knocked out a player in Arc Raiders.
Speaker BGasp.
Speaker BClutch my pearls.
Speaker BI mean, okay, because I just admitted that to you.
Speaker BI'm sure the PvP players are probably saying right about now this dude doesn't even PvP, so why should he have an opinion on player damage in the game?
Speaker BWell, I'll tell you, because while I have over 10,000 hours playing Destiny Raids, strikes, dungeons and even simple patrols in Destiny.
Speaker BI also have over 1500 hours playing the Crucible, which is Destiny's dedicated PvP mode.
Speaker BThey have their own special maps to boot.
Speaker BHey, I love PvP and Destiny and I think for an older dude I can hold my own.
Speaker BI'm not just some dad gamer schlub that just gets rolled whenever there's a gunfight either.
Speaker BI have purposely made the decision to only help other players in Arc Raiders and never affect their experience with the game.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BBecause Impark told us before they even launched their game that it was created as a co op shooter from the get go.
Speaker BThe PvP element was only added after the fact to make the game more quote exciting.
Speaker BI'm sorry, I'm calling bullshit here.
Speaker BThose 30 minute raids that I embark on.
Speaker BGet it?
Speaker BEmbark.
Speaker BOkay, I'm sorry but that 30 minute window on the top side world where I have to navigate around Ark wherever they may be.
Speaker BWhether I'm collecting something or killing a specific Ark with a specific weapon, or just discovering a new area that I ran by, you know, because you only have 30 minutes before you gotta extract or you die to a nuclear explosion.
Speaker BThat alone was so much content to play and every raid was different.
Speaker BI think the magic sauce of Arc Raiders is the Ark themselves, their behavior.
Speaker BThis was a key machine learning element that Destiny so needed with their worlds.
Speaker BThey even talked about it at some point, how it was going to adapt to player behavior and reactions just never was.
Speaker BNever came to be.
Speaker BI mean Destiny enemies are pretty dumb.
Speaker BYou know exactly where they're coming from.
Speaker BThey just stand out there in the open.
Speaker BThey're pretty much fodder for Seasoned Guardian.
Speaker BThat's what we call ourselves in the game as players.
Speaker BFor those of you who don't play Destiny.
Speaker BWhen I first encountered a leaper, I was intrigued how it tried to get me and survive as I was picking it apart with my weapons.
Speaker BI have a video of a leaper bouncing down a stairwell in Buried City with no frickin legs.
Speaker BIt was so determined to get me with its area of effect weapon that just kept coming.
Speaker BThat is the experience I yearn for machine learning with world enemies.
Speaker BIt's a special feature that Embark created and I think we'll see more of this in future games.
Speaker BIf it's not already here.
Speaker BWhen enemies start thinking for themselves and not run on some pre programmed track or route, then we should be genuinely excited to play that PvE game.
Speaker BBungie, are you listening?
Speaker BEmbark is killing it with these enemies.
Speaker BAnd for Those of you PvPers out there that say, oh, you PvEers, you're going to be bored in a month with this mode.
Speaker BNope, I won't be.
Speaker BI mean, I've been playing this way already.
Speaker BThere's already a hidden PvP mode in these games.
Speaker BIt's the competition among other raiders to get that loot.
Speaker BFor those of you that have played Arc Raiders, have you remember going into a facility on damn battlegrounds only to find out that another Raider has already went through it and took all the good stuff in the drawers?
Speaker BThat's your competition.
Speaker BHave you ever witnessed the mad dash to get that queen's core after five or six Raiders all work together to, you know, to destroy it and take it down?
Speaker BThat's the PvP element, not some rat shooting you while you're looting a leaper that you just emptied all your weapons into to take down all by yourself.
Speaker BThat's the point at which I turn the game off and I boot up something else.
Speaker BNow, speaking of getting bored, here's the second thing that I think Embark needs to put into their games to keep Raiders playing, to keep things interesting.
Speaker BI really think this will keep players engaged for hundreds of hours of gameplay.
Speaker BWe love projects, we love completing quests, we love to gather resources.
Speaker BI mean, remember, we're risking our loadouts in this dangerous topside world, by the way.
Speaker BBut if we're going to get a reward for it, there's the thing I also want to mention too.
Speaker BI didn't complete the last project in Arc Raiders.
Speaker BI know I've completed all of them.
Speaker BI've got all the.
Speaker BI got all the rep score to buy everything from all the cards that had all the extra cosmetic stuff.
Speaker BI did everything.
Speaker BI did everything.
Speaker BBut I didn't complete that last project.
Speaker BYou know why?
Speaker BBecause of the number one rule in any game that includes loot, you have to offer a reward that is worth players putting in the time to complete, whether it's a quest, a project, or just a plain objective.
Speaker BEmbark, if you're listening, someone out there is listening.
Speaker BFrom Embark, you have been way too conservative with your projects and quests.
Speaker BYou gotta give us something exciting to earn, whether it's a hard to get weapon or just some cosmetic item to flaunt to other raiders that said, yeah, I did complete that thing.
Speaker BThe last project to me just wasn't rewarding enough to invest my time into, so I didn't do it.
Speaker BSorry, Embark, I'm just being honest here.
Speaker BI can imagine playing a PvE version of Arc Raiders and having not one, but several projects to work on all the time.
Speaker BIf one project doesn't interest you, there are five others that you might want to complete because they offer you that reward that's important to you.
Speaker BEmbark.
Speaker BYou could continually add more projects into the game with little minor updates.
Speaker BAnd it'll keep us scavengers working for material for months to come.
Speaker BThis is kind of the problem that Destiny 2 had at the end of its life.
Speaker BAnd again, it's coming back soon to be announced.
Speaker BThere just wasn't enough content to play at the end of the game.
Speaker BI mean, in Destiny 2, at the very end, there wasn't enough content to play at the end of the game.
Speaker BThere was nothing really to work towards.
Speaker BAnd once Bungie released its last update, when the devs, remember, threw everything but the kitchen sink at it.
Speaker BWith all these rewards you can earn, there's so many things you could work towards.
Speaker BOnly then did guardians come back to the game and start investing their time again.
Speaker BAnd why today's numbers are so much better than they were in the episodic years.
Speaker BSo this is my take as an outsider looking into the arc raiders community.
Speaker BHey, I've bought into the story.
Speaker BI love the lore.
Speaker BI love the storyline.
Speaker BThe dystopian worlds reminds me so much of the matrix.
Speaker BYou know, when everybody lived underground and you would take these ships into the outer worlds that were so dangerous.
Speaker BIt just reminds me so much of the matrix.
Speaker BIt's such a great story.
Speaker BIt's such a great concept for a video game.
Speaker BIt really is.
Speaker BI bought into it.
Speaker BWhen I'm on top of that world, I really feel like I'm up top of that world.
Speaker BI really feel like there's danger all around.
Speaker BMy head's on a swivel.
Speaker BI'm looking at the clock.
Speaker BYou know, I love timers, but I don't mind timers if.
Speaker BIf it's just right there at the top.
Speaker BThat kind of.
Speaker BI don't know, it kind of make keeps me disciplined to get what I need to get and get out.
Speaker BI kind of like that aspect of arc raiders, even though it was never really an aspect in Destiny 2.
Speaker BI know they're different games.
Speaker BI realize that.
Speaker BAnd I realize that God, rolls of weapons and stuff don't apply really to arc raiders because arc raiders has a certain set of weapons.
Speaker BAnd yes, you can.
Speaker BYou can upgrade them, but everybody needs materials.
Speaker BEverybody needs things to upgrade things to make them better.
Speaker BSo this is my take as an outsider looking into the arc raiders community.
Speaker BThese two things, in my opinion, they'll bring back the game to its near original glory because not everybody's coming back, but they can march on to that 10 year project that they talked about so much last year.
Speaker BI really hope that Embarks sees this video or hears this bonus podcast episode.
Speaker BThis is the vision I see for the future of this game as a longtime Destiny Guardian.
Speaker BFor those raiders who enjoy PvP, there always be a place for you.
Speaker BBut for those of us who just want to put in a few raids after a long day of work, there will also be that world for you to discover with lots of projects and stuff to do other than just killing Ark, which by itself is a lot of fun.
Speaker BAnd they have new Ark coming out in Frozen Trail which comes out on October 8th.
Speaker BI'm excited for it, I really am, but as this is the early years for Embark, I see so many similarities between them and Bungie trying to keep players busy in an online live service game.
Speaker BAnd for me I really think this would do it.
Speaker BAt least it would be in the right direction.
Speaker BSo here's my question to all of you Destiny players out there.
Speaker BWhether you've played Arc Raiders or not, if you knew that Arc Raiders would have a dedicated PvE only experience going forward, would you jump into it and try it?
Speaker BIt's like 40 bucks.
Speaker BIt's not even very expensive, but my God, the content.
Speaker BI'm really curious.
Speaker BLet me know.
Speaker BYou can submit your answers in our Guardian Down Roundtable Show Feedback channel in our Discord community or send me an email or a voicemail.
Speaker BJust go to guardiandowncast.com hey Guardians, would you like to send us a question for the show?
Speaker BThere's several easy ways to do it.
Speaker BFirst, join our Discord server Discord GG guardiandownroundtable.
Speaker BThere's a link in our show notes down below as well.
Speaker BThere's a channel in our Discord labeled Podcast Questions where you can type in your question for the show.
Speaker BSo come hang out with us and we might read it out live.
Speaker BSecond, you can send us an email or what I really like is for you to send us a voicemail with your question@guardiandowcast.com and we might play it live on the podcast.
Speaker BThink of it as talking with us right on the show.
Speaker BHey, we love voicemails, so let's hear them.
Speaker BThanks for listening.
Speaker BAnd later Guardian.
Speaker BHey, before I go, I had some voicemail questions come into the show this week and I wanted to share it with all of you.
Speaker BSo here goes.
Speaker CHello, skimmingdesk here and we have the News of old Destiny coming back and some possibilities of new Destiny, no idea.
Speaker CBut now that's happened, I'm thinking about maybe upgrading to a PS5.
Speaker CI'd love to have a PS5 Pro, but I'd like to ask you guys, is it worth it?
Speaker CThere's got to be an extra 400 quid on top of a PS5, the base model.
Speaker CSo do you reckon it's worth it?
Speaker CI know, Gator, you've got a PS5 Pro.
Speaker CDoes it make that much difference or is it just worth buying the base model?
Speaker CAnd it's going to be an upgrade from what I've got anyway in it.
Speaker CAnd to play Destiny in 60 frames a second, that'll be class.
Speaker CSo, yeah, my question is, is it worth the Pro?
Speaker CIs it worth all that money?
Speaker COr just buy the base model.
Speaker CI'll pay it off every month over the course of a year or something and, you know, it'll make my games look a lot better.
Speaker CI suppose so, yeah.
Speaker CDunno, I'm a little bit torn.
Speaker COr I could go into the buddy's room and just steal his PS5.
Speaker CYeah, I might do that.
Speaker CSteal his PS5 and install Destiny.
Speaker CHmm.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CLet us know.
Speaker CIs the Pro worth it or not?
Speaker CNot sure.
Speaker CProbably not.
Speaker CBut yeah.
Speaker CAnyway, love y'.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker BThanks, Uncle Scum Death, for that question.
Speaker BWell, let's see.
Speaker BIt currently stands, the PlayStation 5 prices right now.
Speaker BI'm just looking it up in America, so just probably less for you guys over in the uk, because the pound is worth more than the dollar, I would say.
Speaker BLet's see, PlayStation 5, the slim digital edition console, has 825 gigabytes.
Speaker BI think mine has the 2 terabyte in it.
Speaker BI can't remember, to be honest.
Speaker BIt's $599.99.
Speaker BAnd that is at one of the local retailers here, the PlayStation 5 disc console Slim has a terabyte in it, is $649.99, $50 more, basically.
Speaker BAnd then the PlayStation 5 Pro console with two terabytes, that's the one I'm talking about, is currently $699.
Speaker BBut I've seen prices go as far as $899.99 because of GTA 6 coming out.
Speaker BAnd they've promised a lot of extra little goodies for the PlayStation 5 Pro console owners.
Speaker BA lot of them have gotten sold out.
Speaker BScum Death.
Speaker BSo it's up to you.
Speaker BI think getting the disc for $50 more is worth it if you can find it, because, hey, I mean, we all have Blu Rays, right?
Speaker BIf you want to play a Blu Ray, you don't have to worry about having a Blu Ray player.
Speaker BIt's right there.
Speaker BI will tell you this.
Speaker BI have a regular PlayStation 5 with the disc in my living room where my big screen TV is.
Speaker BAnd I can play, you know, movies.
Speaker BI've got a huge collection of Blu Ray movies and stuff.
Speaker BI can play those anytime I want.
Speaker BThe PlayStation Pro does not have a disc.
Speaker BIt sits right here in my office where I game with my 120 frame 120Hz monitor.
Speaker BI think it's like 28 inch.
Speaker BI think it really is what you prefer.
Speaker BI will say this.
Speaker BI played Arc Raiders with the new PSSR which is supposedly the upgrade for the PlayStation 5 Pros.
Speaker BBut I just heard that they offered a PlayStation 5 Normal console.
Speaker BThat PSSR upgrade I can.
Speaker BWell, here, I'll give you a difference.
Speaker BWhen I play Arc Raiders and it's raining, you can actually see the drops on your screen.
Speaker BIt's the weirdest thing, man.
Speaker BIt's hard to explain, but if you're into, if you're a little geeky into stuff like that, having that, those little extra details in the game, then maybe just, I mean if you're going to pay it over time, then maybe just get what you want, man.
Speaker BI mean, you work hard for your money, brother, you decide what you want to get, but that's basically what you're getting.
Speaker BThe nice thing about the PS5 Pro console is that you're getting a 2 terabyte SSD in it built in.
Speaker BAnd from what I hear, you can upgrade that.
Speaker BBut I don't know if you've seen the price of RAM lately.
Speaker BThat might be worth it right there.
Speaker B699 Is at is an online store, right?
Speaker BThat's the best price I've seen.
Speaker BBut be prepared to pay $99.99 for it if you really want it.
Speaker BBut honestly, just a regular PS5 with the disc in it for what, 650 bucks?
Speaker BI think that's worth it.
Speaker BIf you want to get the same gaming experience in a PC, you're probably going to spend a minimum of a couple grand.
Speaker BSo it's still beneficial to get a PlayStation console if console is your thing.
Speaker BYou like using the controllers and yes, Kingsley, before you say anything in the comments, I know you can play a lot of Steam games on console, I get that.
Speaker BBut it's nice having it native to the machine, you know.
Speaker BAnd uncle scum desk like me, he's an old PlayStation fan like I am and I totally get that you want to look at the PlayStation 5.
Speaker BSo anyway, long, long story short, I would definitely get at least the PlayStation 5 disc if you can find it because I know you have disc games and I know you have probably Blu ray movies that you have been collecting like I have.
Speaker BThat would be the best deal for the money.
Speaker BAnd like I said, $650 here in America is probably what, 5.99 there in the UK in in pounds.
Speaker BSo there you go.
Speaker BAppreciate the question, Uncle Scum Death.
Speaker BHope you're doing well, brother.
Speaker BOkay, here is our second question, our second voicemail.
Speaker CHello, Scum Death here, I'm just listening to the radio and funnily enough this, they've got a guest on called Destiny and some obviously female.
Speaker CLike I thought if she had a sister, would she be called Destiny 2?
Speaker CSo my question for the show is, is that a good joke or not?
Speaker COh God, I'm sorry, I'm a bit bored though.
Speaker CAnyway, love you all.
Speaker BBye Uncle Scum Death.
Speaker BYou're a hoot man.
Speaker BYou know there's also a, a YouTuber and blogger named Destiny who is not.
Speaker BDoes not talk about Destiny.
Speaker BHe talks about a lot of political stuff out there.
Speaker BSo just Google Destiny, you'll find them.
Speaker BMy son listens to him all the time.
Speaker BOr at least he used to.
Speaker BI don't know, I like dad jokes.
Speaker BNext question.
Speaker CHello, Scumdev here.
Speaker CQuestion for the show.
Speaker CYesterday when I finished work, well, when I got home from work I realized I'd left my phone in the van at work.
Speaker CSo I couldn't retrieve my phone until this afternoon.
Speaker CSo I went 24 hours without my phone.
Speaker CIt was absolutely liberating.
Speaker CI felt off the grid, you know, I might as well be living in a tent.
Speaker CSo yeah, it was really nice and non stressful and then until I seen everybody and they're like, I've been trying to phone you loads, da da da.
Speaker CIt's like, but tough.
Speaker CI didn't have my phone.
Speaker CSo my question for you is if you didn't have your phone for 24 hours, would it freak you out?
Speaker CWould you lose it over it or would you think yes, Bliss.
Speaker CAnyway, love you, you.
Speaker BYou know, Uncle Scum Death, I am a Gen X like you sir, and I have lived in the analog and digital world.
Speaker BSo I am not hung up on having my phone with me all the time.
Speaker BNow if I do have it, I have that same draw to look at it and check in on stuff like you would probably if you had your phone but there'll be times I'll be in my office working on something and I'll leave my phone in the other room.
Speaker BI'll leave it in the kitchen.
Speaker BAnd I don't miss it a bit.
Speaker BI really don't.
Speaker BI figure whatever is important will be on that phone when I get back to it.
Speaker BSo I'm like you, man.
Speaker BI did.
Speaker BI don't panic if I don't have my phone.
Speaker BI don't know if I've gone 24 hours without a phone, but I've.
Speaker BI've gone quite a bit of time without a phone.
Speaker BBut I'm never always thinking about, where's my phone?
Speaker BWhere's my phone?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BMaybe it's just a generational thing, but for me, I'm with you, man.
Speaker BI don't have to have my phone with me now if I'm out driving and stuff.
Speaker BIt's kind of important to have your phone in case you break down, you need to call someone for help.
Speaker BBut I guess you can always flag someone else down that has a phone, right?
Speaker BAnyway, thanks for the question.
Speaker BAppreciate it.
Speaker BAppreciate all your questions, Uncle Scum Death.
Speaker BBy the way, if any of you want to send a voicemail question to me or my guest, it is guardian downcast.com and on the right side of the screen you'll see send us a voicemail and all you do is click that.
Speaker BIt'll go right to a screen.
Speaker BYou hit the big red button, record on your phone or whatever you have connected to your computer.
Speaker BYou could do this on your phone.
Speaker BYou can do it on whatever mic you have on your computer.
Speaker BEven a laptop.
Speaker BI mean, if you have a laptop and you're going through the camera, I'm sure I can hear it.
Speaker BAs long as I can hear it, send it our way.
Speaker BI'm curious.
Speaker BI love hearing voicemails from our community.
Speaker BSo don't hesitate if you have something on your mind.
Speaker BGuardian downcast.com hit that send us a voicemail button.
Speaker BI really do love those.
Speaker BHey, Guardian.
Speaker BOur show runs on Duncan.
Speaker BI mean, it's supported by our community.
Speaker BAnd by that I mean our Patreon community.
Speaker BWe're nearly 100 strong now.
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Speaker BHey, I want to thank our super fans, our Patreon community, especially our highest tier supporters like our Dungeon Champion Patron, Deadpool 1 Merc and our raid boss tier patrons Frostbite Amazing Taco King and Jealous Gaming.
Speaker BHey, I'm thinking of making this a permanent thing.
Speaker BYou know, we can do our live shows twice per month and then I can do a shorter like pre recorded show every other week.
Speaker BKind of my way of checking in with everybody.
Speaker BWhat do you guys think about that?
Speaker BDoes this sound like something you would like?
Speaker BJust a short show to catch up, maybe answer any questions for the show and then present one topic surrounding our gaming hobby and done.
Speaker BI mean I used to do solo episodes with the Destiny help desk, so I'm kind of already used to doing this kind of show.
Speaker BLet me know.
Speaker BYou can go to our GDR Feedback channel in our Discord community.
Speaker BHey or send me an email.
Speaker BOr better yet a good old voicemail.
Speaker BIt's guardiandowncast.com Remember, next week we go live with my guest McMaximo.
Speaker BWe'll catch up and he's got a topic I think you guys can all relate to these days and I'm curious what you all think about it.
Speaker BJoin our live chat on my Twitch and YouTube channels.
Speaker BThat's Todd the Gator.
Speaker BT O D D T H E G A T R All one word or you can join our live stage in our Discord community.
Speaker BWe'll be going live Thursday, October 8th, 9pm Eastern.
Speaker BAnd of course you can watch the replays on my Twitch and YouTube channels as well.
Speaker BSo for whatever game you're into these days, be sure to take breaks, hydrate and touch grass.
Speaker BThe Guardian Down Roundtable community going strong for over seven years now.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BI'm very humbled.
Speaker BI really am.
Speaker BThe path to victory is long, but there's always hope.
Speaker CFight.
Speaker BThank you all so very much for listening.
Speaker BAnd whether in life or in your game, get your reps in.
Speaker BAnd later, Guardian.
Speaker BOvertime.
Speaker BLet's do this.
Speaker AThis is Grackle and you have found yourself at the best and most influential and most insightful gaming community on the web.
Speaker AGuardian.
Speaker AI forgot Blank I was going so.
Speaker BWell I thought that will be in the outtakes at the end of the show.
Speaker BThat will be the outtakes at the end of the show.
Speaker CI love it.
Speaker CI love it.
Speaker AIt's like it's not.
Speaker AGuardian Downcast.
Speaker BGuardian Down Roundtable.
Speaker BIt's all right.
Speaker BIt's all right.
Speaker BOkay, I'm leaving.
Speaker BIt's open.
Speaker BJust whenever you're ready.
Speaker AHey, it's Grackle.
Speaker AAnd you have found yourself at the roundtable.
Speaker AThe Guardian Down Roundtable.
Speaker AThe best, the most most influential, the number one gaming community on the Net.
Speaker AI got all choked up there for some reason.
Speaker AThis is harder than I thought it would be.
Speaker BIt's tough.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BYou know, honestly, getting choked up is.
Speaker BIs a good part of it.
Speaker BYou're emotional.
Speaker BAll right, I'll.
Speaker BI'll get you out of the emotional mood.
Speaker BJust say a straight one this time.
Speaker BReady?
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BWhenever you're ready.
Speaker AHey, it's Grackle.
Speaker AAnd you have found yourself at the Guardian Down Roundtable.
Speaker AThe best, the most influential, and the most insightful gaming community on the net.
Speaker BThank you, brother.
Speaker BThat was nice, Sam.
Speaker BSo remember, as you're playing your games, hydrate.
Speaker BWait, what's the saying?
Speaker CHydrate.
Speaker CDon't hydrate.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BRemember as in life.
Speaker BRemember as in life.
Speaker BWe're in your game.
Speaker BGet your reps in later.
Speaker BGuardian.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BHow did I freak?
Speaker CWe wait and we hydrate.
Speaker BHow did I forget that?
Speaker BGeez Louise, man.
Speaker BThat's what happens.
Speaker BThat's what happens, old man brain.
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